Friday, August 20, 2010

Is quote-mining equal to lying?

I realize that August is Stupid American Month, but I couldn't resist pointing out this gem. It never gets old, does it? The latest poison pabulum being forced down the throats of the unwashed morons:

Jan Markell, founder and director of Olive Tree Ministries, remembers what Obama wrote in one of his books.

"This is a bit of a paraphrase: 'When ill winds blow,' he said, 'I will always stand with the Muslims,'" she cites. [Editor's note - Actual quote: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."]

"I am not one who is saying that Barack Obama is a Muslim; we don't know that," the ministry leader continues. "But the fact is his sentiment is with the Muslims of the world, and his sentiment is with the Muslims of Manhattan. I'm quite sure that he would be very okay with a mosque just a stone's-throw away from 9/11."

When I read that, I had to think back about what Obama had said in his books. This quote is from Obama's Audacity of Hope, and , of course, is taken wildly out of context. Here's the whole citation:

"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Markell, first of all, is too lazy to obtain the entire accurate quote. Secondly, she removes the context that then-Senator Obama was referring to American Muslims who might encounter prejudice due to 9-11. (That would never happen, right?).

Why would a "Messianic Jewish leader" wish to change the context of Obama's sentiment? Is quote-mining just a form of lying? Discuss amongst yourselves... call me after the mid-term elections when all this idiocy will settle down.


G in Berlin said...

Is calling a Christian a "Messianic Jew" another way of fomenting antisemitism? Even if she calls herself one?

Tony said...

I have absolutely no idea what a "Messianic Jew" is, that's why I put in in quotes, but that is what she calls herself. The whole website of hers is a mystery to me as to its purpose or message.

G in Berlin said...

It's a "Jew" who believes in Jesus and wishes to convert other Jews to be Christian, while pretending to be a Jew. It's pretty disgusting, I think.

Tony said...

Monotheism, go figure.

Anonymous said...

Anyone born of a jewish mother is considered a jew according to the jews themselves. So when one starts identifying with Yeshua, their birth families have no other option, it seems, but to consider them dead". According to their dogmatists, you can be an atheist jew, or a whoremongering jew, but if you think Yeshua is the messiah, you're dead.

G in Berlin said...

No, anonymous. You are wrong. Jews believe that when you convert to another religion, you are no longer Jewish and pretending to be Jewish to convert others Jews to your not-Jewish religion is fraudulent and disgusting. Some people may consider that members of their religion who convert are dead to them (I believe that is standard in Mormonism and Scientology) but it is not standard in Judaism.And I believe that as you choose to not capitalize the term Jew and then use quite a few disgusting terms, you have outed yourself as an antisemitic Messianic Christian pretending to be a Jew. Congratulations on being two years late to the conversation.